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  2. FIRE-8348

[VWR-29273] [MAINT-1326] [3.4Merge] Child prims with target omega lagging behind movement of physical motion of object

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      Lea94 resident
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      Firestorm 4.3.0.30936 Havok Beta

      Description

      This beta version of Firestorm works generally better than the previous version 4.2, that there is less lag and it is slightly faster. As I perceive it.
      But I've discovered a bug in this new viewer who were not in the previous one.
      I breed Kitty Cats (has 34 cats) and have discovered that my cats sometimes looks wierd into this version. They lose body parts when they move, sometimes if they are lying down and sitting up, loosen the head and lies below the body. Sometimes a cat have ears sitting in the middle of the face, or the eyes hanging in the air a bit above their heads.
      If I right-click on the cat returns everything to look normal again, but I've never seen anything like this in the previous Firestorm versions and I have used Firestorm in 1.5 years.
      Please fix this.
      Thanks in advance.
      Leah-Marie (lea94)

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          whirly.fizzle Whirly Fizzle added a comment -

          Hiya Lea,

          I think you are probably seeing the issue filed at https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-29273 (Child prims with target omega lagging behind movement of physical motion of object )

          This bug started on the Viewer 3, 3.3.4 codebase. Firestorm 4.2.2 release is based on the 3.3.3 codebase and the beta is based on the 3.4.1 codebase.

          Can you give me a SLURL so I can come and see your cats?

          Do you use Viewer 3 at all and do you see the same issue on that?
          Thanks!

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          whirly.fizzle Whirly Fizzle added a comment - Hiya Lea, I think you are probably seeing the issue filed at https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-29273 (Child prims with target omega lagging behind movement of physical motion of object ) This bug started on the Viewer 3, 3.3.4 codebase. Firestorm 4.2.2 release is based on the 3.3.3 codebase and the beta is based on the 3.4.1 codebase. Can you give me a SLURL so I can come and see your cats? Do you use Viewer 3 at all and do you see the same issue on that? Thanks!
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          leah-marie Marie Fredriksson added a comment - - edited

          Hey Whirly.
          Thanks for your respond. No, i have not seen this issue on Second Life jira. I discovered for myself that sometimes it looked strange with the cats after I had installed this last viewer and then wrote to you. I started using Firestorm summer 2011 and has since then installed a new viewer every time you have released a new version, to have the latest and hopefully best version all the time. But I have not experienced this phenomenon in my previous viewers, it started when I had installed this one. Previously, it could happen, for example, if a cat got up quickly from lying to sitting his eyes trailed behind a micro second before they came on their right place in the head, but nothing else. Not like now that the body parts sometimes is in the wrong place, the hind legs come off and hangs after them when they run, etc.

          I am not sure what you mean with your question "Do you use Viewer 3 at all and do you see the same issue on that?".
          Do you mean if i have used SL's viewer 3, or if i have used the setting "V3" in my current firestorm viewer and see the same issue? I have not tested SL's latest viewer which i suppose is version 3. In Firestorm, I use only "Hybrid" and have use it all the time, even in the previous viewers.

          You are welcome to go and watch my cats, but it's not certain you discover something in a short while because this only happens time to time.
          Here is the address to my "Cattery 2" where I have 16 of my cats and I have put you in the Access List. ( The other 18 cats living on my property where I self live . )
          http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Xandia/238/195/21

          I have also sent you three pictures via IM in SL how a cat looks strange. Look at them!
          Leah-Marie.

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          leah-marie Marie Fredriksson added a comment - - edited Hey Whirly. Thanks for your respond. No, i have not seen this issue on Second Life jira. I discovered for myself that sometimes it looked strange with the cats after I had installed this last viewer and then wrote to you. I started using Firestorm summer 2011 and has since then installed a new viewer every time you have released a new version, to have the latest and hopefully best version all the time. But I have not experienced this phenomenon in my previous viewers, it started when I had installed this one. Previously, it could happen, for example, if a cat got up quickly from lying to sitting his eyes trailed behind a micro second before they came on their right place in the head, but nothing else. Not like now that the body parts sometimes is in the wrong place, the hind legs come off and hangs after them when they run, etc. I am not sure what you mean with your question "Do you use Viewer 3 at all and do you see the same issue on that?". Do you mean if i have used SL's viewer 3, or if i have used the setting "V3" in my current firestorm viewer and see the same issue? I have not tested SL's latest viewer which i suppose is version 3. In Firestorm, I use only "Hybrid" and have use it all the time, even in the previous viewers. You are welcome to go and watch my cats, but it's not certain you discover something in a short while because this only happens time to time. Here is the address to my "Cattery 2" where I have 16 of my cats and I have put you in the Access List. ( The other 18 cats living on my property where I self live . ) http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Xandia/238/195/21 I have also sent you three pictures via IM in SL how a cat looks strange. Look at them! Leah-Marie.
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          whirly.fizzle Whirly Fizzle added a comment -

          Thanks for th SLURL Leah.

          If you see Kippy Adored skulking around your cats, thats me too

          Yes, by viewer 3 I meant the Linden labs viewer 3.
          If it is the bug I suspect it is, it will happen on viewer 3 also.

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          whirly.fizzle Whirly Fizzle added a comment - Thanks for th SLURL Leah. If you see Kippy Adored skulking around your cats, thats me too Yes, by viewer 3 I meant the Linden labs viewer 3. If it is the bug I suspect it is, it will happen on viewer 3 also.
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          whirly.fizzle Whirly Fizzle added a comment - - edited

          When you see the cats break apart like you describe, if you right click -> edit on the cat, does it snap back into the proper position?

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          whirly.fizzle Whirly Fizzle added a comment - - edited When you see the cats break apart like you describe, if you right click -> edit on the cat, does it snap back into the proper position?
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          leah-marie Marie Fredriksson added a comment -

          Hey again Whirly.
          I have tonight installed and used the SL's latest viewer to study my cats for a while. Yes, it happens the same things with them as in my Firestorm beta viewer. So it is the bug that you suspect.
          ( Uuuh, i do not like SL's viewer, it feels so old fashioned and not at all as good as Firestorm )

          When i see the cats break apart, it is enough that i only right click on them and they will snap back to proper position. ( i do not need to click on "edit" ) OR.....if I turn away the camera from them just a second and then turn the camera back to them, they will also snap back to proper position.
          Regards.
          Leah-Marie.

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          leah-marie Marie Fredriksson added a comment - Hey again Whirly. I have tonight installed and used the SL's latest viewer to study my cats for a while. Yes, it happens the same things with them as in my Firestorm beta viewer. So it is the bug that you suspect. ( Uuuh, i do not like SL's viewer, it feels so old fashioned and not at all as good as Firestorm ) When i see the cats break apart, it is enough that i only right click on them and they will snap back to proper position. ( i do not need to click on "edit" ) OR.....if I turn away the camera from them just a second and then turn the camera back to them, they will also snap back to proper position. Regards. Leah-Marie.
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          leah-marie Marie Fredriksson added a comment - - edited

          Hey, hey again.
          I have discovered another issue with this viewer that i have not seen before.
          Around my property where I live, I have a reef of rocks with the waves hitting against them and foam of water flying over the rocks. I discovered to night that I did not see the foam flying over the rocks any more, only the waves outside. When I logged out and back in again, i saw the foam over the rocks as usual. But after about ten minutes the foam start to dissapear and after further 5-10 minutes there was no foam over the rocks, unless in few very small parts of them. So something has happen with the foam over my rock barriaer that was not visiable in my previous viewer.
          The rocks i have is: "Naima Coraline Barrier straight (outsim 20prims)"
          Leah-Marie.

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          leah-marie Marie Fredriksson added a comment - - edited Hey, hey again. I have discovered another issue with this viewer that i have not seen before. Around my property where I live, I have a reef of rocks with the waves hitting against them and foam of water flying over the rocks. I discovered to night that I did not see the foam flying over the rocks any more, only the waves outside. When I logged out and back in again, i saw the foam over the rocks as usual. But after about ten minutes the foam start to dissapear and after further 5-10 minutes there was no foam over the rocks, unless in few very small parts of them. So something has happen with the foam over my rock barriaer that was not visiable in my previous viewer. The rocks i have is: "Naima Coraline Barrier straight (outsim 20prims)" Leah-Marie.
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          leah-marie Marie Fredriksson added a comment -

          Please go here and look self http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Province/220/243/22 No foam after a while. Note: i have planned to make my garden in several of months, but did not get time yet, beacuse that is my garden empty so far. But soon i have christmas holiday from school and will really do something aboput my garden.
          L-M

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          leah-marie Marie Fredriksson added a comment - Please go here and look self http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Province/220/243/22 No foam after a while. Note: i have planned to make my garden in several of months, but did not get time yet, beacuse that is my garden empty so far. But soon i have christmas holiday from school and will really do something aboput my garden. L-M
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          whirly.fizzle Whirly Fizzle added a comment -

          Heya Marie,

          Thanks for confirming you see the same issue on Viewer 3.

          We will use this issue to track this bug https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-29273 (Child prims with target omega lagging behind movement of physical motion of object )

          Im going to have a look at your reef now.

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          whirly.fizzle Whirly Fizzle added a comment - Heya Marie, Thanks for confirming you see the same issue on Viewer 3. We will use this issue to track this bug https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-29273 (Child prims with target omega lagging behind movement of physical motion of object ) Im going to have a look at your reef now.
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          whirly.fizzle Whirly Fizzle added a comment -

          Im still waiting at the reef to see if I can repro, but from your description, Im wondering if its one of these issues...

          The spray for the reef is particles

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          whirly.fizzle Whirly Fizzle added a comment - Im still waiting at the reef to see if I can repro, but from your description, Im wondering if its one of these issues... The spray for the reef is particles https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-28659 (Particle cache, something, bug) FIRE-5821 https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SH-2800 (Particles seem to disappear MUCH more easily) FIRE-4434
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          leah-marie Marie Fredriksson added a comment -

          Hey Whirly. Thank you for taking the time for my problems.
          Yes, I can confirm with certainty that the cats look the same strange way in SL's viewer 3, as in Firestorm Beta.

          I can also tell you that I tested viewer 3 a while again at this weekend to watch the waves in it and it was the same phenomenon as in Firestorm Beta.
          I see the foam ( the particles ) over the reef when I arrive at my property, but after a while, 5-10 minutes the most of the foam disappeared. When I used them earlier Firestorm viewers (version 4. 2 and down), I could be on my property for several hours and have never seen the foam disappears as it does now.
          So apparently is this also a bug in the viewer 3.

          But a funny thing is that I have not noticed that the foam in the waterfall on my property have disappeared. It seems to look normal. It seems that it is only on the reef along my shoreline as it disappears.

          Regards.
          Leah-Marie.

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          leah-marie Marie Fredriksson added a comment - Hey Whirly. Thank you for taking the time for my problems. Yes, I can confirm with certainty that the cats look the same strange way in SL's viewer 3, as in Firestorm Beta. I can also tell you that I tested viewer 3 a while again at this weekend to watch the waves in it and it was the same phenomenon as in Firestorm Beta. I see the foam ( the particles ) over the reef when I arrive at my property, but after a while, 5-10 minutes the most of the foam disappeared. When I used them earlier Firestorm viewers (version 4. 2 and down), I could be on my property for several hours and have never seen the foam disappears as it does now. So apparently is this also a bug in the viewer 3. But a funny thing is that I have not noticed that the foam in the waterfall on my property have disappeared. It seems to look normal. It seems that it is only on the reef along my shoreline as it disappears. Regards. Leah-Marie.
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          leah-marie Marie Fredriksson added a comment - - edited

          Hey again.
          Today, Monday December 03 i have installed the new release of Firestorm 4.3.1.31155.

          I have now studied my cats for a while in this new viewer and they still lose body parts and looks wierd sometimes, but as it looks not as often as in the previous Beta viewer. I have also noticed that they snap back into the proper position after about 1-2 sec, without i need to do anything. But perhaps it is only temporary because I have not had the opportunity to study them as long tonight.

          The foam from waves disappear still after a while. But I have now discovered that if I drag "Max. Particle Count" (in Preferences / Graphics) to 0 and then up to Max again, returns the foam. But only for a moment and disappears after shortly time again.
          Leah-Marie.

          Tuesday December 04, complement to my observations that i did yesterday.
          I have now had more time to look at the cats and it is unfortunately just as before with the beta viewer. No difference as i thought yesterday.
          I really hope that you fix this problem soon.
          L-M

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          leah-marie Marie Fredriksson added a comment - - edited Hey again. Today, Monday December 03 i have installed the new release of Firestorm 4.3.1.31155. I have now studied my cats for a while in this new viewer and they still lose body parts and looks wierd sometimes, but as it looks not as often as in the previous Beta viewer. I have also noticed that they snap back into the proper position after about 1-2 sec, without i need to do anything. But perhaps it is only temporary because I have not had the opportunity to study them as long tonight. The foam from waves disappear still after a while. But I have now discovered that if I drag "Max. Particle Count" (in Preferences / Graphics) to 0 and then up to Max again, returns the foam. But only for a moment and disappears after shortly time again. Leah-Marie. Tuesday December 04, complement to my observations that i did yesterday. I have now had more time to look at the cats and it is unfortunately just as before with the beta viewer. No difference as i thought yesterday. I really hope that you fix this problem soon. L-M
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          whirly.fizzle Whirly Fizzle added a comment -

          Appears to be (finally!) fixed with last merge.

          Tested on Firestorm 4.5.0 (37931) Sep 7 2013 12:20:42 (Firestorm-Fizzlefire) with OpenSimulator support

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          whirly.fizzle Whirly Fizzle added a comment - Appears to be (finally!) fixed with last merge. Tested on Firestorm 4.5.0 (37931) Sep 7 2013 12:20:42 (Firestorm-Fizzlefire) with OpenSimulator support

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